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go over the fiscal cliff and now we are in the midst of a lot of last-ditch bargaining between the senate leaders, reid and mcconnell, what are the chances for a small deal in the next, less than 48 hours to avoid the cliff. >> exceedingly good. i think people don't want to go over the cliff, if we can avoid it. i think, whatever we accomplish, political victory to the president, hats off to him, he stood his ground and will get tax increases, maybe not 250 but upper income americans and the sad news is we have accomplished little, in terms of not becoming greece, that bill will not affect the debt situation and it will be a a political victory for the president and i hope we have courage of our convictions, when it comes to raise the debt ceiling to fight what we believe as republicans. hats off to the president, he won. >> chris: quick follow-up, before we turn to senator feinstein, you said you don't think your conservative colleagues in the senate will filibuster or set up a procedural roadblock, they'll vote to avoid going over the cliff. >> if mcconnell can't get 60% of us to
all of us, thank you. >> chris: up next or sunday group on the cliff-hanger over the fiscal cliff. what will happen? and how will it affect you? ♪ >> we'll be working hard to try to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours and so, i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> whatever we come up with will be imperfect and some people will not like it and some people will like it less but that is where we are. >> chris: the two senate leaders, mitch mcconnell and harry reid on the last-ditch effort to put together a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff and it is time now for our sunday group, bill kristol of the weekly standard, former democratic senator evan byah and byron york from the washington examiner and kirsten powers of the daily beast web site. you heard mitch mcconnell say he's hopeful and optimistic. will congress pass something in the next 48 hours, something? to avoid the fiscal cliff? >> i don't know. but, i guess, probably. and it will be a bad deal but i suppose better than doing nothing. and, every working american's taxes will go up january 1st if they do nothing about the payr
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to go over the fiscal cliff. now, we are in the midst of a lot of last ditch pa bargaining between the senate leaders reid and mcconnell. what do you think of the chances for a small deal in the next less than 48 hours to avoid the cliff? >> exceedingly good. i think people don't want to go over the cliff if we can avoid it. i think what have we accomplished? political victory for the president. he stood his ground and he will get tax rate increases. maybe not at 250 but on upper income americans and the sad news for the country s that we accomplished very little in terms of not becoming greece or getting out of debt. this deal won't affect the debt situation. it will be a political victory for the president and i hope we will have the courage of our convictions when it comes time to raise the debt ceiling to fight for what we believe in asp republicans. but hats off to the president, he won. >> chris: you don't think some of the more conservative colleagues will filibuster or set up a procedural road block? they will vote to avoid going over the cliff? >> no, but if mcconnell can'
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christmas the president laid out a new stripped down plan to avert the fiscal cliff. here is what it is. extend the bush tax cuts for people making less than $250,000. extend unemployment benefits for the 2 million people who will run out next month and delay the sequester of $110 billion in spending cuts next year. for all of the talk of $4 trillion in debt reduction this plan would only save $800 billion over ten years. senator conrad is that the best that washington can do over the next nine days and can you pass even that? >> look, chris, it may come to that but we can do better. and we should do better. this is an opportunity to do something that would be hugely important for the country. i mean my own belief is what we ought to do is take speaker boehner's last offer, the president's last offer, split the difference. that would be a package of about $2.6 trillion. you couple that with the $1.1 trillion that has already been done and that would be close to the $4 trillion we are needed to stablize the debt and to begin to bring it down and then if you wanted to add on the alternati
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